Friday 17 December 2010

IG: Cramming not Spamming,,,honest ;)

How many vehicles can you fit into your army list at 1500?

Not that many right? 8? 10? 12?

How about lucky number 13?

Why would I want to? Surely I’m sacrificing too much to gain an extra hull or 2?

Let us examine…


In the process of creating my current Imperial Guard list here, I have tried to eliminate all wasted points and operate as leanly as possible.

When I was messing around and trying to put together a mobile midfield list, I tried to do the same.

It is a process I go through whenever I build a list.

The only thing I thought about these 2 lists was the inclusion Av14. Now, Av14 is hardcore…of course it is, so is av13 on the side arc, but with a lot of Lance weaponry around (Eldar, DE, Nids, BA) and the extreme abundance of Melta weaponry in EVERY bloody list…why am I paying more for it?

The Demolisher has been a great addition to my force, but at the expense of long range anti tank. It takes up a slot in the Heavy section, a lost that is already jammed full of extremely viable units…

What if I dumped it? It’s expensive, and whilst presenting an extremely visible, psychological and actual threat…it’s expensive!  

If we examine my current IG list, we see that I am lacking a little something…long range anti tank. Now, I have a Hydra, 2 Vendetta’s and a plethora of S6 for suppression…but couldn’t I have more?

Fuck yes, is the answer.

If you remember back to Atreides and I planning for our first tournament (Brighton Warlords Doubles, 3rd) we tried to cram in a massive amount of long ranged firepower.

Efficient firepower, not looking to pay over the odds for extra strength when weight of fire will prevail…

So how can I get his into my list:

CCS 3 x Melta, Chimera
Vet Squad 3 x Melta, Chimera
Vet Squad 3 x Melta, Chimera
Vet Squad 3 x Melta, Chimera
Vet Squad 1  x Autocannon, Chimera
Vendetta Gunship 1
Vendetta Gunship 1
Hellhound
Hydra Flak Tank
Leman Russ Demolisher
Medusa

All vehicles have Hull Heavy Flamers..

So we dump the Demolisher and the Medusa. The Medusa is awesome, but BOOM! BOOM! Is not really what we are going for…

This gives us 300 points! Lets just change this up for more Hydra godliness.

2 squadrons of 2.

Now I could leave it as that…a straight swap… but adding 2 more AV12 Hulls..

So, as I can leave it at that…I will.

What do we have then?

CCS 3 x Melta, Chimera
Vet Squad 3 x Melta, Chimera
Vet Squad 3 x Melta, Chimera
Vet Squad 3 x Melta, Chimera
Vet Squad 1  x Autocannon, Chimera
Vendetta Gunship 1
Vendetta Gunship 1
Hellhound
Hydra Flak Tank
Hydra Flak Tank  x 2
Hydra Flak Tankx 2 

All vehicles have Hull Heavy Flamers


15 S6 shots
20 S7 Twin Linked shots
12 S8 Melta shots
6 S9 Twin Linked shots

Nice, but how about anti horde?

11 S5 Heavy Flamers
1 S6 Inferno ‘I can shoot round corners’ cannon

Plus, screw it, 20 S7 shots per turn will mess up most horde units…

But you’ve lost your Av14 and your S10 shit?

I have, but we do now have no less than 13 Av12 hulls on the table.
And we have 4 competent Melta units that CAN alpha strike if need be…

Next up, we’ll look at how this would look like on the tabletop and how we’d deploy, counter it etc.

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6 comments:

  1. this is really funny. we are literally having the same thought processes. the list i am almost certainly going to build now is almost identical.

    also, sorry for posting a few seconds after you (not that i knew)

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  2. Bitch!!! You have stolen my post thunder!
    Mother fucker!
    And I know your mum!!!

    lol. We just generally think along the same lines!!

    How does yours differ?

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  3. I'm a big fan of griffons mortars, and 225pts will get you three re-rolling Str6 ordnance templates - great for one FOC slot and a bit of fun gameplay!

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  4. Hmm...hadn't considered the Griffon, I know its the most accurate of the ordnance types, but just have not rated it above its brothers...but on a budget points wise...could give it a go...
    Cheers Admiral!

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  5. the thing i cant get out of my head is the wasted firepower on meltavets during the first 2 or 3 turns where they sit and do nothing in their chimera, and the total ineffectiveness of squads with only heavy weapons when the enemy closes. we already know that BS4 autocannons are a steal at 10 points so i dont think its wasted on meltavets.

    why not just take 2 vet squads with meltas and an autocannon and 2 with 3 GL's and an autocannon? they are still all cheap and are now very effective at all ranges.

    with this core i'd probably take a command squad with meltas and chimera, 2 vendettas, and 3 or 4 hydras.

    in 1750 it scales up well with a Manticore and a squad of plasmavets.

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  6. I've got it.
    Not 13 Hulls....just 12...

    CCS 3x Melta, Chimmie HHF
    Vet Squad 3 x Melta, Autocannon, Chimmie HHF
    Vet Squad 3 x Melta, Autocannon, Chimmie HHF
    Vet Squad 3 x Plasma, Autocannon, Chimmie HHF
    Vet Squad 3 x Flamer, Autocannon, Chimmie HHF
    Hellhound - HMM
    Vendetta
    Vendetta
    Hydra x 2
    Hydra x 1
    Hydra x 1

    What do you think Atreides? I think this rivals the firepower our doubles army put out? You?

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