Thursday 8 December 2011

2k Nova Comp Ideas

So. There is a 2k Nova style tourney early next year. Yes I know I'm early, yes it's a miracle (See last Kabalite post). And I'm tossing ideas around to actually paint an army completely by then. But mostly making rediculous 2k lists. So I'm gonna toss out a few lists, some based off the ones from my first two tourneys (Baron,Duke), and the ones I want to play. Huskblade, Soul Trap Archon turning MCs to dust. Just once I want to kill a Sanq priest, then kill Mephy and cut every Autolas pred in half w/S10 Melee attacks. Is that too much to ask?

Heres my first go, off the Baron list I played at Brighton.

Baron-105
Haemon w/SS-65
5x Incubi in Venom-175
5x Incubi in Venom-175
3x Wracks w/Liq in Venom-85
5x Wracks w/Liq in Venom-125
5x Wracks w/Liq in Venom-125
5x Wracks w/Liq in Venom-125
16x Hellions w/Helliarch, Agon-281
5x Scourges w/HWB-130
5x Scourges w/HWB-130
5x Scourges w/HWB-130
Ravager w/FF-115
Ravager w/FF-115
Ravager w/FF-115

Pretty standard looking competitive list. With more Wracks over Wyches, Scourges over Blasterborn. When building comp lists you should be thinking of what you will be facing, not just taking what you like. Its been a pretty good mix of armies towards the top at the last two tourneys the Sons attended. So I tried to build this list for all eventualities. Should be pretty solid against Mech BA, Wolves, Vanilla's, DW, other DE, Eldar. Few worrying armies as always for us Dark Eldar are GK, Guard, Orks could give some trouble if let too close. Haven't played necrons enough to tell but the Mobility and Night Vision should help. Just have to hope HWG stuns roll high and can immobilize barges.

Kiss my Haywire Balls AV13!......

Mainly worried about GK razorspam though. My scourges are pretty useless at supression against them and there is no open-topped to help my rolls. Ravagers will be focusing on killing Dreads and leaving me open to all the Razor/Psycannon fire. All the infantry dies like regular infantry. Melt some tards lined up all pretty like behind razorbacks, and turn your your Termis to glass. Its the vehicles that give me all the trouble, any good player will keep them covered the entire time.

Guard can go either way I think. Its going to come down to crippling certain units early and getting anti infantry into position alive to cut down the swathes of squishies. Let the incubi kill a smaller squad early and just raise hell form there. Wracks will wreck guardsman as well with rerolls to wound and liq's melting flesh like butter in the microwave. The list has to speed to stop guard from pushing out onto objectives and the strength to put them down. My next list is a take on the Duke list I ran at BW2. Still needs tweaking but here is the idea.

Duke-150
4x Trueborn w/SplCannx2,SCarbinex2-78
5x Wyches w/HWG,Hek w/Agon in Venomcannon-155
5x Wyches w/HWG,Hek w/Agon in Venomcannon,GT-160
5x Wyches w/HWG,Hek w/Agon in Venomcannon,GT-160
5x Wyches w/HWG,Hek w/Agon in Venomcannon,GT-160
5x Wyches w/HWG,Hek w/Agon in Venomcannon,GT-160
5x Scourges w/HWBx2-130
5x Scourges w/HWBx2-130
5x Scourges w/HWBx2-130
Voidraven w/FF,4x Shatterfields-195
Voidraven w/FF,4x Shatterfields-195
Voidraven w/FF,4x Shatterfields-195

I really like this list. Voidravens make my cold Archon heart a little less frigid. Only down side with most of these lists is alot of the damage is dealt in glances, with all the haywire, it should be able to stun up and cut down tanks. The last list I was thinking of has a few units that I love than trying to make it competitive. I wanted voids but couldn't afford it with the fire power I wanted. What do ya'll think? 2 squads of scourges or upgrade Ravagers to Voids with Shatterfields.
Archon w/HB,ST,SF,CD-150
5x Incubi in Raider w/FF-180
3x Trueborn w/Blaster x3 w/Venomcannon-146
3x Trueborn w/Blaster x3 w/Venomcannon-146
5x Wyches w/HWG,Hek,Agon in Venomcannon-155
5x Wyches w/HWG,Hek,Agon in Venomcannon-155
5x Wyches w/HWG,Hek,Agon in Venomcannon-155
5x Wyches w/HWG,Hek,Agon in Venomcannon-155
5x Wyches w/HWG,Hek,Agon in Venomcannon-155
5x Scourges w/HWB-130
5x Scourges w/HWB-130
Ravager w/FF-115
Ravager w/FF-115
Ravager w/FF-115

Lots of KPs, but lots of venoms, Average Lance, Wyches make it pretty assaulty. I think DE are a stronger dex now than they were at release. With GKs and Crons, neither are good in combat. GKs have a few upsides with force weaps all around. But necrons are shit, only thing that is semi decent in CC that I've seen is 1 HQ,15 base scarab swarms and Wraiths. The DE dex is loaded with solid combat units. Hell, every elite slot but Trueborn is a CC unit. The trouble is getting yourself into combat with those units and knowing what units need to take down what. But thats a topic for another time with a little more practice.

Keep it DARK.

Kabalite

2 comments:

  1. great post, love the colour commentary.. 2k there is going to be a huge amount of firepower incoming, although it really seems like you've packed in alot more stuff..so... meh. I think they are good..

    My main issue with them is the Voids.. I know you love them, they do look cool, but they are SO expensive for an AV11 vehicle..

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  2. Ravagers are just the better choice in my opinion. especially now, as they are effective against necrons as well.

    i personally like the final list, but i wish you could get a beastmaster in there. cool as they are, i dont really rate scourges. too squishy.

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