tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post8643796390829666059..comments2024-02-12T08:18:40.120+00:00Comments on Sons of Sanguinius: X Legion Tournament Report - in briefVenerable Brotherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07216367267460059729noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-27136546094857606422011-02-22T23:33:52.902+00:002011-02-22T23:33:52.902+00:00Having high expectations and being over critical i...Having high expectations and being over critical is a v.good thing for competative gaming, believe me I wouldnt have made the bundles of cash I did without it. Even if it makes me look like I am sucking a lemon even when I am thouroughly enjoying a game of 40k (like my last game vs Atriedes, awesome game, but apparently I looked like he'd just shot my dog before we started). <br /><br />Also given that this is not a team game, a bad day or your mind just not playing well with you can throw you out, I've had shitty experiences just because I ate badly (the ill fated lan where all my team ate was the wagonwheels, for 8 straight hours ...). <br /><br />But your list, I really wanted to play it myself, but I also didnt want to put it on the table without practicing it itself, so to go in "cold" to a tourney with it, pretty tough I think.Bullyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18376322430128578637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-1979591183332429352011-02-22T07:33:11.588+00:002011-02-22T07:33:11.588+00:00Hi Rupert,
MIssed out your second CCS...thought t...Hi Rupert, <br />MIssed out your second CCS...thought they were the 2nd vets, couldn't remember...cheers for pointing it out. <br />I think I am overly critical and have an inflated sense of ability tbh! lol. My expectations were very high for where I thought I'd finish...based largely around having a game or two, as you say, of armies/players that I am confident of winning. <br /><br />With 5 back to back competitive dudes..yes even the Chaos player...it was tough. <br /><br />But you take alot of lessons from that. <br /><br />I know I have learnt alot and yes, you will undoubtedly see Atreides and I in the future! <br /><br />Thanks for the game bro...cold face? nah! just one of extreme constipation! lol. thought it might have been the food on day 1...Venerable Brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07216367267460059729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-3077289900558127202011-02-21T23:24:07.986+00:002011-02-21T23:24:07.986+00:00Hi Ven,
thanks for the game, it was great to have...Hi Ven,<br /><br />thanks for the game, it was great to have a chat about competitive play afterwards too!<br /><br />My list was:<br />CCS, 4 plasma, chimera<br />CCS, 4 melta, chimera<br /><br />PBS, 8 psykers, 1 overseer<br /><br />Vet sqaud, 3 melta, chimera<br />PCS, 4 melta, chimera<br />Inf sqaud, Commisar<br />Inf sqaud<br />SWS, 3 melta<br /><br />Vendetta<br />Vendetta<br />Vendetta<br /><br />Manticore<br />Manticore<br />2 Hydras<br /><br />It isn't exactly what I'd wanted to take and I've discussed with Killswitch before what I consider the top guard list but it's what I had available and was decent. As you said though, pretty boring!<br /><br />Try not to feel too dejected about the tournament, I also faired quite poorly based mainly around match ups. First I played multi tourney winner Ash H (draw), then I played Rob T who is an extremely solid Eldar player (draw), I then played Harry A who was coming off an Open win and although I really should have seized the win he hang on in there and beat me (loss), I then played yourself, the 4th competitive player in a row (draw), I then played Phil and the dice were on fire and he could do nothing (win), then played Ross M and it was very hard fought but I edged it in the end! Although I didn't do that well, I certainly learnt a thing or two and probably had the best 6 opponents I've ever had in a tourney, it's all swings and roundabouts I guess!<br /><br />I never go to a tournament hoping to play gimmers but I hope to play a list here or there which I am very confident of beating, over the 6 games I only played one of these, such is life I suppose (the game the dicre were on fire)!<br /><br />Mikos' dark eldar list is something of a conglomerate of opinion from Mikos, myself and another of our gaming group Richard. I myself thought he needed more trueborn as it seems you thought prior to now so there is still differing opinion. Mikos did get better match ups than you or I over the course of the weekend but at the same time those games still need to be won. Quite when I'll hear the end of him winning I don't know!<br /><br />Thanks for the game, I am aware I can have a bit of a cold expression on my face when I play but I honestly enjoyed it very much, even if the result was a bit naff for the both of us, hope to see you and Atredies (Dune fan I presume) at tournaments in the future!<br /><br />Rupert :) x<br /><br />Deleted first post: spelling!Ruperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15917008283996508329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-17078941787356005152011-02-21T23:19:23.070+00:002011-02-21T23:19:23.070+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ruperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15917008283996508329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-46669409376655278372011-02-21T19:56:35.029+00:002011-02-21T19:56:35.029+00:00They will be finished up painting wise by the end ...They will be finished up painting wise by the end of the week...they had 3 colours all, but only half were completely done... so I'll be going for finished job by weekend and keep playing them...they are not just going back in the box.. <br /><br />@ Bully... the DE are just for local play at the minute, but I do like them...but I fear the prevalence of IG Hydra/Vend/MeltaVet spam armies... of which there were 7/8 at XLegion..would cripple them... <br /><br />That said, your man Canyonemikeros (or Mike) from London way (I think) took the tournament with Dark Eldar.. A list kinda similar to the one I posted back in Jan.. but with some very, very fundamental changes. <br /><br />Similar in it was Baron/Hellions/Ravagers... but he ran more Wracks and Incubi to my Trueborn with Blasters. <br /><br />Based on observations from the weekend... I think he may very well have called it right. <br /><br />I am swinging very much around to your position/point of view Alex... but am not quite there yet... I still feel that a well built list SHOULD be able to take on whatever comes at it...and I think that is a crucial point.. I think the ImmoBAliser needs a lot of practice...Venerable Brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07216367267460059729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-10379924501524579332011-02-21T19:27:51.487+00:002011-02-21T19:27:51.487+00:00^ Agreed. Glad someone realises :D! Out tourneys a...^ Agreed. Glad someone realises :D! Out tourneys arn't all Nova, so dont expect nova lists to work in the UK at out pt values :P! As for your army Ven, Maybe make a few changes but dont give up. Need a few playtests :) They arnt point and click like guard :PKillswitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03870259848881215847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-57714275197756867502011-02-21T18:52:42.934+00:002011-02-21T18:52:42.934+00:00The real problem with "net lists" or any...The real problem with "net lists" or any off shot of them is that they are all there for everyone to access, which means most players have the chance to plan or think about how to beat them, also Stelek and Kirby and his gang rarely play just the plain missions from the rulebook like we here in the UK do, that's why deathstars can still work here, but not in games with a several objectives, table quarter claiming and VP.<br /><br />But at the end of the day if the dice screw you over the dice screw you over!MC Tic Tachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15949140720088475873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-6212270725129532542011-02-21T18:48:01.413+00:002011-02-21T18:48:01.413+00:00I made a change away from BA's myself ven - I ...I made a change away from BA's myself ven - I just plain stopped enjoying them. I've switched up for Brighton and after that it will be GK's - and I'll be running the 2 armies I love - and hopefully have 1 fully painted by then as well - with the option to run multiple codex's if I do get bored. <br /><br />So potentially DE to Brighton then?Bullyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18376322430128578637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-26853101630302117042011-02-21T18:17:08.100+00:002011-02-21T18:17:08.100+00:00Competition was very tough. The lists were not ...Competition was very tough. The lists were not 'weird'...thats the wrong word really. <br />If you read 3++ or YTTH...the lists you see there are fantastic, but on the tabletops, I'm learning, this is not what you will always see... so by creating an army that is at home with Mech Guard or Wolves, mech or Jump BA, the Nid build etc...all the standard competitive stuff...you leave gaps in your build vs other stuff. <br /><br />Or at least, thats the issue that the Immospam list has...Atreides well built IG DO have the right tools to apply to anything... <br /><br />I think Atreides was very happy with his list and overall performance in the end... <br /><br />For me, the army works and deserves another go! lol. <br /><br />But today....it's entirely possible that I built a load of Venoms and Hellions to run that army I posted back at the start of January!! Need a change again...but this time...I'm sticking to it!!Venerable Brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07216367267460059729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-6867601536167125072011-02-21T18:07:08.481+00:002011-02-21T18:07:08.481+00:00Unlucky boys, seems like some really weird lists w...Unlucky boys, seems like some really weird lists were being taken but it's all a learning curve I guess. Any thoughts on changes/things that definitely didnt work or was it just generally KP screwing you over?Stargazerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06205110356643706887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-32388690495728637482011-02-21T17:44:04.812+00:002011-02-21T17:44:04.812+00:00I am genuinely ready to go again now. I felt a lit...I am genuinely ready to go again now. I felt a little depressed last night/this morning...but I am ready to roll and try again... <br /><br />Rupert ran: <br />CCS - Plasma. CHimera <br />PBS - 8 psykers. on foot. <br />PCS - Melta. Chimera<br />2 x 10 Guardsmen, Commissar (mini-blob) <br />SWS - Melta<br />Vets - Melta. Chimera. (x 2 of them I think) <br />Vendetta<br />Vendetta<br />Vendetta<br />Manticore<br />Manticore<br />2 x HydraVenerable Brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07216367267460059729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-20024830212956457402011-02-21T17:16:20.194+00:002011-02-21T17:16:20.194+00:00Unlucky lads.
I feel you on the MSU KP thing - I&...Unlucky lads.<br /><br />I feel you on the MSU KP thing - I've had 3 or 4 games agaisnt people not Atriedes, where I felt like the entire game I was in control, and yet lost something like 10-8 or 9-8 just because ultimatly AV11 is quite flimsy and gives up easy KP's that you dont really feel like your losing out for control of the game.<br /><br />Andy (Atreides) any knowledge on how Alan / Andy / Ross got on? I tried looking up the results and seen a couple of Ross's mentioned. <br /><br />As for the "meta" thing - its true - not every one takes net lists or fully optimised stuff, especially since tourneys do get anyone and everyone signing up - even had that in wow arena. You'd be rocking high ratings then out of knowwhere you see an incredibly odd lineup, nature of the game.Bullyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18376322430128578637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-78783211092875461162011-02-21T17:09:54.613+00:002011-02-21T17:09:54.613+00:00Told you msu sucks in kp missions but the internet...Told you msu sucks in kp missions but the internet hates me for saying it. Still considering you took a list with no playtesting, u didnt do too bad. the brighton warlord doubles tourney certainly is fairly low in terms of competativeness in comparison to whats out there :) the uk scene, or as stated before, the meta is very different to what the internet tells you :D <br /><br />Nah ill post something once the blogosphere knows of your failure lol ill post something tommoz as im not at home (on my phone). Looking forwards to the bton singles tourney in april :) shud be bit harder, few very experienced players shud be there this time. Btw, hoelw did the outflanking storm troopers do? And what was in ruperts ig list?Killswitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03870259848881215847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-6814413107722707382011-02-21T16:58:19.763+00:002011-02-21T16:58:19.763+00:00haha, i would like to add that i was actually pret...haha, i would like to add that i was actually pretty happy with my performance in the end. i only had one game where i played badly, and i was punished. my other loss was against an 8kp BA list, and the guy played a blinder, so thats fine with me. the other games were entirely fair results. will post a proper summary tommorrow.Atreideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05304081312256836817noreply@blogger.com