tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post502768201316454160..comments2024-02-12T08:18:40.120+00:00Comments on Sons of Sanguinius: Part 2: Exploring “The MVB Core” , the 'Heart' of alternative lists...Venerable Brotherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07216367267460059729noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-27218785067932542962011-06-17T11:19:53.902+01:002011-06-17T11:19:53.902+01:00@Killswitch...funny you should mention Paladins in...@Killswitch...funny you should mention Paladins in this for fun...I've done the same! Not this list, but thrown in Paladins for fun! That'll be up very shortly... playing around with this "core" means you can just take so much cool stuff!Venerable Brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07216367267460059729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-9195287747162498522011-06-17T09:33:06.740+01:002011-06-17T09:33:06.740+01:00Funny you mention this. For the past few weeks and...Funny you mention this. For the past few weeks and after extensive ppaytesting, i felt that 4 small units of henchmen were a great minimum choice for troops. I wouldn't say they are the best choice, but certainly basic. Its good to see i wasnt the only one to notice this. It comes down to playstyle in terms of how you equip them. Storm bolters are nice but to get any use, you putting them in the firing line. <br /><br />I like to take 2 or 3 units with triple meltas to help vs Land raiders which tend to be fairly common, psycannons just dont cut it.<br /><br />To that extent ive built a tourney list and a fun list. Here is my fun list:<br /><br />Librarian: 185pts<br />Quickening, Might of titan, Warp rift, shrouding & 3 Servo skulls.<br /><br />Coteaz: 100pts<br /><br />10 Paladins: 750pts<br />1# Banner<br />2# MC-Psycannon & Halberd<br />3# MC-Psycannon & Sword<br />4# MC-Psycannon & Hammer<br />5# Psycannon & Halberd<br />6# MC-Halberd<br />7# Halberd<br />8# Sword<br />9# Hammer<br />10# Apothecary & Halberd.<br /><br />3 Henchmen: 62pts x5 - 310pts<br />Razorback with Psybolts.<br /><br />Dreadnought: 135pts x3 - 405pts<br />2 Twin-linked Autocannons & Psybolts.<br /><br />Now hammerhand stacks, even those halberds have a potential str 8 and 2d6 for armour pen :DKillswitchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-28246287886185307052011-06-17T06:47:00.392+01:002011-06-17T06:47:00.392+01:00@Crosser - the melta bunkers are useful and effect...@Crosser - the melta bunkers are useful and effective, but with the chimera it can be suppressed...I guess at 85 points its not that big a deal. <br /><br />I'll give them a test run, might even run a ConversionBeamer on the cheap second Inq..nice one. <br /><br />@Evil - Like Bully said, single Raven can be a big target, but there are 10 other vehicles to shoot at lol! <br />Really like those Purifiers in there, nice touch. <br />Death Cult unit may be a bit big, overkill on most things! But definately more survivable and mega dangerous that way... <br /><br />Cheers for commenting..Venerable Brothernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-28993302301981858972011-06-17T00:59:14.394+01:002011-06-17T00:59:14.394+01:00With any inquisitor I rather like the triple multi...With any inquisitor I rather like the triple multi melta servitors in chimera for 85 pts. For a second HQ I'd take a second cheap inquisitor to take another squad of these (dropping a pysback squad). This gives you real ability to take out AV13+ which otherwise is a major weakness for GK's.Crosser Modellinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09931376286941189265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-28871976164192542312011-06-16T23:03:27.087+01:002011-06-16T23:03:27.087+01:00Ahh I just missed it in there Ven - so that list i...Ahh I just missed it in there Ven - so that list is even stronger than I thought - nice.<br /><br />The psy com is a PITA - but at least its an option - I'd like that at least in there, even if its not the best - the ability to reserve and get them on fairly reliably is handy. <br /><br />@EG - nice list - the SR by itself is a bit of a gamble as it might get shot to sky high - but the purifiers are very nice in there.Bullyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18376322430128578637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-16515865753106584512011-06-16T22:59:09.002+01:002011-06-16T22:59:09.002+01:00Take the core.
Strip out 1 of the Acolytes (squad...Take the core. <br />Strip out 1 of the Acolytes (squad) <br />Add 3 x 5 Purifiers - 2 Psyc, 2 Halberd,<br />x3 Rides for them - Razorback - Psybolts <br />Add 5/5 Death Cult/Crusaders<br />Add Storm Raven<br />Add Xenos Inq - Rad/Psycho<br /><br />Lose 1 point from somewhere.. <br /><br />Coteaz <br />Xenos - Rad/Psycho<br />5 Purifiers - 2 cannons, 2 halberds,Psyback <br />5 Purifiers - 2 cannons, 2 halberds,Psyback <br />5 Purifiers - 2 cannons, 2 halberds,Psyback <br />3 Warrior Acolytes - Psyback <br />3 Warrior Acolytes - Psyback <br />3 Warrior Acolytes - Psyback <br />3 Warrior Acolytes - Psyback <br />5 x Death Cult Assassins + 5 Crusaders <br />StormRaven - TLPC, TLMM <br />Dread - Psybolt, 2 x TL AutoCannon <br />Dread - Psybolt, 2 x TL AutoCannon <br />Dread - Psybolt, 2 x TL AutoCannonEvil_Geniusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-5266625085447437812011-06-16T22:51:00.065+01:002011-06-16T22:51:00.065+01:00Both Ravens are filled, one choc full of Purifiers...Both Ravens are filled, one choc full of Purifiers, the other with Coteaz, Xenos Inq and Death Cult/Crusaders... <br /><br />Think you must have just missed that line of the list/post mate... but happy to see we are on similar lines.... <br /><br />The Communion issue is a PITA. Going second versus very shooty list, its a great idea...but he then sits on his own,out of LOS..where poss..this is not always possible though and he is then not using his grenades..Venerable Brothernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-37814994486728109692011-06-16T22:41:44.244+01:002011-06-16T22:41:44.244+01:00Very interesting list - I like this route - the ou...Very interesting list - I like this route - the outside the box building around a solid - if a little flimsy at the same time lol - core.<br /><br />I'd really like to fill that 2nd SR - at least with some form of threat. <br /><br />I think the purifiers can drop to 8 men - saving 2x24 + the 2 halbs - so 48 points. Psybolt is good - but I think we can drop that as well - so 68 points. 3xDCA = 45 3xCrusaders = 45 so we still need 22 more points - maybe we'll drop those bolters atm - that leaves us needing 8 more points - hell maybe drop a purifier down to 7 man? gets us the bolters and maybe some more "wounds" for the squad with 4 point acco's?<br /><br />That way you have options - 7xPurifiers w/ Cot or Inq in 1 SR and 3xDCA 3xCrusaders and a couple of bitches in the other SR - depending on your opponent can decide how, where and when you want those IC's in.<br /><br />Though prob with psycom - I just realised - I am assuming he is with the "deathstar"? Thus if he is - he'll be reserved so can't use it to bring the SR's on? Though I think the sacrifice of putting him in a razor might be worth it to "protect" the ravens.Bullyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18376322430128578637noreply@blogger.com