tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post3517505938830774101..comments2024-02-12T08:18:40.120+00:00Comments on Sons of Sanguinius: Tyranid Deployment: The Bio-Blob?Venerable Brotherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07216367267460059729noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-23386706864295810932011-02-15T18:22:26.093+00:002011-02-15T18:22:26.093+00:00Cheers for the comment Mercer.
When I've pla...Cheers for the comment Mercer. <br /><br />When I've playtested this I've just kept the HG in plain sight... need to maybe write down "No LOS req'd" next to them on paper or some shit just to remind myself! Having to bubblewrap them and the MC's is tough sometimes and can impede movement... siphoning them off behind LOS-blocking cover is where they should be... <br /><br />ThanksVenerable Brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07216367267460059729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-45120637798760470852011-02-15T11:58:48.902+00:002011-02-15T11:58:48.902+00:00When deploying my Tyranids I put Termagants at the...When deploying my Tyranids I put Termagants at the front, then Hive Guard then Tervigons & Carnifexes - my Hive Tyrant has a Tyrant Guard so can stay behind the Termagants.<br /><br />Doing this gives more life out of the units especially since Hive Guard get targetted first when playing against mech armies. I usually spawn more Termagants as when my bullet shield fails and start peeling Hive Guard off into terrain where LOS cannot be drawn to them and the Termagnts and Tervigon split off onto objectives as the HQ Tervigon, Tyrant and Carnifexes move haead.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15192025704338851715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-26173093258672768652011-02-14T16:50:26.460+00:002011-02-14T16:50:26.460+00:00*cough* Plasma *cough* lol
I agree I think...The...*cough* Plasma *cough* lol <br /><br />I agree I think...The TG are mandatory for Swarmie and that just pushes his points cost up massively...cause really, you'd run 2 TG.Venerable Brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07216367267460059729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-79380943192420368312011-02-14T15:40:47.037+00:002011-02-14T15:40:47.037+00:00Nah too many points sunk into something which...we...Nah too many points sunk into something which...well is just overpriced. Its a beast but hogs a lot of points. Once you add the Tyrant guard (which are 100% needed) Its a huge point sink and tends to attract every big gun available (not in a good way as thats like 500pts going down). Biggest problem is its speed, its just too slow to be as effective as it is on paper. Its like a wannabe Mephiston, except Meph has flight & fleet, making him the god he is ;)Killswitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03870259848881215847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-3049633953405163532011-02-14T15:02:33.912+00:002011-02-14T15:02:33.912+00:00@Killswitch - I've ran a mini-fexstar before t...@Killswitch - I've ran a mini-fexstar before to good effect with just one fex, 2 I'd love to run but may need some tweaks to the list to fit them in... even base at 160 thats 320...and I can easily strip a Trygon out for 210, still 90 to go though! Easy suggestion would be either one prime to leave a fexstar of 2xFex +1Prime, but that would not give the cover love benefit.. or drop a set of Hive Guard and just run 2x2 of them...but thats losing 4 S8 shots... <br /><br />@ MC - that's going to be alot of gaunts! <br /><br />Anyone got opinions on Swarmlord?Venerable Brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07216367267460059729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-23090730690711883562011-02-14T12:45:47.560+00:002011-02-14T12:45:47.560+00:00Personally at 2k all my anti tank was just 3 tyran...Personally at 2k all my anti tank was just 3 tyrannofexs which was enough - for me.<br /><br />The sheer mass of guants from 5 tervigons got most of the attention as people tend to panic at so many models on the board along with 7 T6, 6W regen' nid gribbles tend to get the venomthropes over looked so they can go around doing thier thing.MC Tic Tachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15949140720088475873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-13102938420943597572011-02-14T11:07:34.603+00:002011-02-14T11:07:34.603+00:00Im inclined to disagree with the harpy approach bu...Im inclined to disagree with the harpy approach but instead certainly consider a hive tyrant as mentioned before. With such a compact style of play the tyrant can assist in buffing those units further and really helping you dilute your opponents firepower. <br /><br />Tyrants cant really be ignored (well, not much in this army can) and with some epic powers and a bodyguard of tyrant guards, he because a big neasance, more so when the game enters mid field stages (turn 3 onwards). I feel your shooting is adequate with the hive guard nd r fex's. Perhaps you could consider a fexstar? 2 fex's with 2 attatched primes. works a treat and becausthey become a unit, sitting them in cover gives them a cover save which is rather nice. Just an option.<br /><br />I like tervigons but worry a lot if they were to roll a double turn 1. For this reason alone is y i wud takd the tyrant to make sure the gants are further buffed.Killswitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03870259848881215847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-65604764861804317122011-02-14T09:58:59.603+00:002011-02-14T09:58:59.603+00:00Appreciate the point on layering...and where the T...Appreciate the point on layering...and where the TFex is hiding! <br /><br />I have been toying with lists over the weekend, one such change was the 2 Harpy idea, the idea of a third Tervigon - whilst tempting, also means I have to paint countless little bastards... but yeah, the Terv Farm is definately a possibility. <br /><br />Quite defensive in play style and somewhat boring? Have you tried that sort of list yourself Puppy? How has it fared for you? <br /><br />Great article btw on Venomthropes...Venerable Brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07216367267460059729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-10520284735927379282011-02-14T08:49:52.361+00:002011-02-14T08:49:52.361+00:00Tyrannofexes are in Vassal, but you have to be usi...Tyrannofexes are in Vassal, but you have to be using the Hive Fleet Behomoth scheme. Weird, but whatever.<br /><br />Your deployment looks okay, but you might try keeping the layering as Termagants -> Hive Guard -> Tyrannofexes -> Tervigons. That makes your Tervis a little better protected against high-standing models (things in buildings, skimmers, etc.) Also, beware of packing yourself so tightly against enemies packing blasts and templates.<br /><br />I still feel the Trygon is largely wasted. You could try taking Venomthropes and, but that means giving up Hive Guard. A Harpy would add some more long-range shooting, and Biovores help against infantry models.<br /><br />2x3 Raveners with RC would give you some "outreach" potential, remaining relatively innocuous until they dash ~20" and hit a vulnerable target. I'm not a huge fan of them, but Kirby likes them a lot.<br /><br />Dropping the Trygon and one Prime would allow you to field two Harpies, which gives you a pretty devastating amount of shooting. Weakens your melee somewhat, but Harpy is still an MC and insures you strike first the turn he charges.<br /><br />A third Tervigon would also be a possibility, which can leave your opponent drowning in models he has to kill. This helps a lot against Terminators (especially TH/SS), who don't like facing huge numbers of wimpy models.AbusePuppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07413248837734103198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-80679357442218649192011-02-14T06:57:22.156+00:002011-02-14T06:57:22.156+00:00No I hadn't tbh MC.
It could certainly be a g...No I hadn't tbh MC. <br />It could certainly be a good option, my worry would be losing one of my reliable vehicle suppression units to gain a 'thrope... <br /><br />How have you fared with them?Venerable Brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07216367267460059729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1742113396089797587.post-61101886736854589682011-02-14T00:16:09.756+00:002011-02-14T00:16:09.756+00:00Have you considered Venomthropes?
Cover saves whe...Have you considered Venomthropes?<br /><br />Cover saves when there are none around or for the harder to hide Big Nid's and the dangerous terrain tests can turn a combat before it begins!MC Tic Tachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15949140720088475873noreply@blogger.com